tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post4175674256058052643..comments2023-09-23T10:55:34.604-04:00Comments on Slightly Crunchy Catholic: Don't hate me, but....melhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06637174816423519588noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-37471733398237160282008-07-14T23:05:00.001-04:002008-07-14T23:05:00.001-04:00Oh and congrats on your sweet baby girl!Oh and congrats on your sweet baby girl!Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06497593765013433443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-48824096931160504672008-07-14T23:05:00.000-04:002008-07-14T23:05:00.000-04:00Oh boy! My OB made me consult with a high risk gu...Oh boy! My OB made me consult with a high risk guy b/c I was going for a VBA2C (which was a great success, btw!) He pushed the repeat c/s of course and when objected partially on the grounds that we're Catholic and were concerned about the prospect of a large number of c/s, he said "Well, I'm Catholic and I had a vasectomy after our third kid." GAH!!!!! Of course, he also compared giving birth to crapping out a bowling ball and said that after watching his wife "suffer" through natural birth, he "made" her have c/s for the last two.<BR/><BR/>Geeze. Thankfully my OB didn't give me any flack about NFP. She asked what I was doing for bc and I told her and she gave me some info on LAM.<BR/><BR/>(I came here through 4real :) )Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06497593765013433443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-18199740626551235112008-07-14T09:41:00.000-04:002008-07-14T09:41:00.000-04:00Thanks everyone. Yeah, I guess that's largely why ...Thanks everyone. Yeah, I guess that's largely why it's so hard to say anything. You know if you say, "Well, we're Catholic and so we are going to use ecological breastfeeding/NFP to space our children", they aren't going to say, "Okey dokey" and drop it. It's going to put you in a position of defending your faith, because they are going to tell you why you really need to drop your beliefs and do this, or like MGH said, a comment about other Catholics that use ABC...I guess the rationale being if they are ok being cafeteria Catholics then you can surely do it too. I know I shouldn't ever back down from defending the faith. It's something that's difficult for me. I'm not confrontational. I've done it before, but I have to dig deep...lol. I'm surprised it was an issue with a homebirth midwife too. Ecological breastfeeding/NFP is not uncommon at all in crunchier circles, regardless of religious beliefs, they just don't want to put those dangerous hormones in their bodies! My last midwife didn't even bat an eye at any of our "Catholic-ness"...I figured it was because she had such an uber crunchy circle of clients that we must have looked positively mainstream to some of the things she'd seen!melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637174816423519588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-40296934291780441732008-07-14T08:39:00.000-04:002008-07-14T08:39:00.000-04:00Ugh, Melanie. My visit to the ob went a step furt...Ugh, Melanie. My visit to the ob went a step further in terms of rudeness! I told her we were Catholic and we were using natural methods, and she started lecturing me on how there are Catholics she sees who use condoms, ABC, etc. We had been completing abstaining at the time to try to figure out my return of fertile signs, and when I mentioned cervical pain she said that was from intercourse. Ahem? Hello, were you listening to me at all??? <BR/><BR/> I personally am going to write a complaint to her head boss about how insulted I was about her complete lack of respect for my beliefs and failing to listen to my concerns. PLEASE call/write/email a complaint about the condom thing--that is completely insulting and just wrong! At the very least, you have incorrect health information in your chart. <BR/>And I will do the same for my doctor! I agree with Mr. Kippley--they need some kind of brochure/hand out that you can give a doctor. Something like, "I am Catholic, and I do my best to practice the teachings of the Church. I will not use any artificial means to affect my fertility and health, and here is why." Then a short list for both physical, emotional, spiritual, and moral reasons. It's such a hard time anyways--you have just had an intimate procedure done to you, then you're sitting there with a baby, very vulnerable and stressed out, most likely breastfeeding, and it is hard to start lecturing the doctor. <BR/>Ok, sorry for the long comment!Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07599424962891845634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-18636475063866930512008-07-14T08:23:00.000-04:002008-07-14T08:23:00.000-04:00Congrats on Tess sleeping through the night! Wow!...Congrats on Tess sleeping through the night! Wow! I'm trying not to be jealous, too! :-)<BR/><BR/>I am equally repulsed by the comments said to you at your visit. Even if you don't say much else, when you go back again, maybe you can ask them nicely to remove the "condom" notation from your files and tell them you were *told* you were doing this, not asked.Lisa Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12584089495171423348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-21698949613803788942008-07-14T05:49:00.000-04:002008-07-14T05:49:00.000-04:00Melanie, I am SO excited for you that Tess sleeps....Melanie, I am SO excited for you that Tess sleeps. THAT is a gift from God, no doubt!!!!! ["I will NOT be jealous...I will NOT be jealous....I will NOT be jealous..." LOL!]<BR/><BR/>As for the 6 week check up - nauseating, isn't it?!!! And really, with a crunchy midwifery practice, I would SURELY expect them to be a little more open to natural family planning - geez! <BR/><BR/>Now that I'm pregnant with number 6, my OB isn't even waiting for the 6 week check up - he's been pressuring me at every single visit about what I'm going to "DO" about this "problem" I have. *sigh* He is pushing this hideous new contraption where they stick little cork screw thingys into your fallopean tubes and they irritate your tubes and cause them to scar up and close up ["We can do that right here in the office now! You don't even have to be put under to get it done!"] Well, yippeee! Let me just sign right up for THAT... vile.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, sore subject here as well. LOL! <BR/><BR/>Oh, and I agree with you about condoms - totally ick in every way. <BR/><BR/>I gotta say, God has not steered us wrong yet. IF you were to get "knocked up" again ASAP 'cause you ain't "doing something" about it, you can bet God would give you the Grace to raise that little one and enjoy the heck out of them. <BR/><BR/>God bless you!<BR/><BR/>KellyKellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314251373368639823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-77849389066898663142008-07-13T11:06:00.000-04:002008-07-13T11:06:00.000-04:00Perhaps what we need is a short brochure directed ...Perhaps what we need is a short brochure directed at medical personnel whom moms meet at their six-week check-ups. In the meantime, if you are doing ecological breastfeeding, just tell them so. And ask them to go chapter 1 of our online manual, Natural Family Planning, to find out why.<BR/><BR/>John Kippley<BR/>NFP International<BR/>www.NFPandmore.org<BR/>"Sex and the Marriage Covenant: A Basis for Morality" (Ignatius)John Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625559146738477712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-30942794132558221342008-07-13T09:31:00.000-04:002008-07-13T09:31:00.000-04:00I have a night sleeper too. Ain't it great?Yeah,D...I have a night sleeper too. Ain't it great?<BR/><BR/>Yeah,<BR/>Don't you hate it when they ask if the baby was "planned." <BR/>"Yes, planned by God!!!" <BR/><BR/>CharlotteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32629830.post-36269782979210916342008-07-12T13:33:00.000-04:002008-07-12T13:33:00.000-04:00What to say. Lets start with, "Are you saying thi...What to say. Lets start with, "Are you saying this baby shouldn't have happened? 'Cause that's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing you saying that this baby, right here, is a horrible mistake that should not happen again. Is that what you're saying?" Turn the tables. Let her deal with the uncomfortable questions. :-)<BR/><BR/>As for the sleeping through the night, I say bravo! My Penelope has been my first sleeper of six kids and it was wonderful, in a certain way. It didn't affect my breastfeeding infertility, either. In fact, I went a year without ovulating after her birth, in spite of only a very few night nursings. I attribute her decline in nursing and the return of my fertility to...<BR/><BR/>The sippy cup. <BR/><BR/>Yup. They don't tell you THAT at your postpartum appointment. :-)Jennie C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14027736832723636538noreply@blogger.com